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ABC(LOS ANGELES) -- Despite his pitiful performance on Dancing with the Stars on Monday night, Bachelorette and Bachelor in Paradise contestant Grocery Joe Amabile must have had Bachelor Nation voting for him like crazy: Not only was he not eliminated on Tuesday night, but he wasn't even in jeopardy.

Instead, the first contestant out on the ABC reality competition show's 27th season was comedian Nikki Glaser. She and her partner, Gleb Savchenko, were one of five couples out of 13 who were in jeopardy, and had to dance once more for the judges. 

All the couples did the same style of dance as they did Monday night, but had to learn completely new routines. Nikki and Gleb improved their score by one point, but it wasn't enough to save them. It's possible that a joke Nikki made during an exchange with Tom Bergeron about how she'd had some "rough sets" -- meaning a set at a comedy club, but sounding like something else -- turned some voters off.

Initially, these six couples were told they were in jeopardy and would have to dance again:

Nikki and Gleb
Facts of Life star Nancy McKeon and Val Chmerkovskiy
Gymnast Mary Lou Retton and Sasha Farber
Blind skier Danelle Umstead and Artem Chigvintsev
Model Alexis Ren and Alan Bertsen
Actor John Schneider and Emma Slater 

But at the last minute, John and Emma were declared safe, leaving five couples to reprise their dances.

All the couples improved their scores, with Alexis and Alan scoring a 23/30, matching the previous night's high scores. Judge Len Goodman felt so strongly that they should stay on the show that he vowed if they got voted off, "I'll show me bum in the supermarket tomorrow!" Thankfully, they were safe, so shoppers in L.A. won't be subjected to the sight of the 74-year-old judge mooning them in the cereal aisle.

The rest of the two-hour show was taken up by promotion for Dancing with the Stars: Juniors, which will debut October 7. The celebrity kid contestants were revealed and the junior pros danced up a storm.

The theme of next week's show, airing Monday night at 8 p.m. ET on ABC, is "A Salute to New York and Los Angeles."

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ABC(NEW YORK) -- Taraji P. Henson plays tough-talking Cookie Lyon on the hit TV show Empire, but off screen, the actress is on a mission to help erase the stigma in the African-American community of getting treatment for mental health.

"When I go to set and you see me as Cookie and they yell, ‘Cut,’ I go home to problems just like everybody else." Henson said Monday on GMA Day. "I’m here to tell you, I have a therapist. I probably need to see her more often."

The mission of making mental health more accessible to African-Americans is personal for Henson, who on Saturday officially launched the Boris Lawrence Henson Foundation, named after her late father, a Vietnam War veteran.

"My father always taught me to live my truth because he lived his, and his truth included mental illness," Henson said. "He was very open about it. He tried to commit suicide."

Henson said it was mental health care that helped her son, Marcel, now in his 20s, through a two-year period that included the deaths of both his father and his grandfather.

"I’m just glad that I raised him [so] he’s not going to be another brother around here trying to be strong," she said, noting that her son's experience gave her the urgency she needed to start the foundation.

The motto of the Boris Lawrence Henson Foundation is "Break the silence. Break the cycle."

"We’re told to pray [mental health] away," Henson continued. "We’re told that it’s a weakness or we’re demonized because we express these feelings that have been bottled up for so long."

Noting the foundation has "so much work to do," Henson said her first goal is to create a dialogue among African Americans about mental health.

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Netflix(NEW YORK) -- If you couldn't get enough of Making a Murderer, here's news you've been waiting for.  Season two of the Netflix documentary series debuts October 19.

Making a Murderer 2 picks up where the first season, which launched in 2015, left off -- the controversial Wisconsin conviction and incarceration of Steven Avery and his nephew, Brendan Dassey, for the 2005 murder of Teresa Halbach.  Avery had already been exonerated in 2003 in the sexual assault and attempted murder of another woman after serving 18 years in prison for it.

Making a Murderer Part 2 will take "an in-depth look at the high-stakes post-conviction process, exploring the emotional toll the process takes on all involved," according to Netflix.

The ten-episode first season of Making a Murderer debuted on Netflix in December 2015 and was both a commercial and critical hit.

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Gilbert Carrasquillo/Getty Images(NORRISTOWN, Penn.) -- A judge in Norristown, Pennsylvania has sentenced disgraced comedian Bill Cosby to three to ten years in prison, ruling that he is a "sexually violent predator." 

Cosby, 81, was convicted in April on three felony counts of aggravated indecent assault for drugging and sexually assaulting Andrea Constand in 2004.

Judge Steven T. O'Neill designated Cosby a sexually violent predator earlier Tuesday after being recommended to do so by a state board of experts.

After sentencing, O'Neill denied bail for Cosby, who was handcuffed and led from court to begin his sentence.

O'Neill told Cosby he was "convicted of a very serious crime," which he called "planned predation."  Judge O'Neill also noted that Cosby neither showed remorse for his crimes nor sought psychological counseling.

Cosby declined to make a statement Tuesday but he did answer a series of questions to demonstrate that he fully comprehended the implications and consequences of that designation.

Prior to sentencing Tuesday, Andrea Constand's victim impact statement was released. It said, in part, "After the assault, I wasn’t sure what had actually happened but the pain spoke volumes. The shame was overwhelming. Self-doubt and confusion kept me from turning to my family and friends as I normally did. I felt completely alone, unable to trust anyone, including myself.” 

Constand's statement also said, "Bill Cosby took my beautiful, healthy young spirit and crushed it. He robbed me of my health and vitality, my open nature, and my trust in myself and others.”

Judge O'Neill called the statement "nothing short of powerful."

During sentencing, eight other alleged Bill Cosby victims stood silently in the rear of the courtroom.  Dozens of women have accused Cosby of either sexual misconduct or assault in alleged behavior going back decades.

Cosby's wife, Camille, a near constant presence in the courtroom during both of her husband's trials and a frequent and vocal critic of the process, did not attend Tuesday's sentencing.

While Cosby's lawyer, Joseph P. Green, argued Monday that Cosby "is not dangerous" and shouldn't serve jail time because he's too old and feeble, Montgomery County District Attorney Kevin Steele said that Cosby shouldn’t get a "get out jail free" card just because he's old and visually impaired.

“The bottom line is nobody is above the law,” Steele argued. He added, “Committing a drugging and sexual assault comes with a hefty price. That price is your liberty.”

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Eddie Redmayne as Newt Scamander; Courtesy of Warner Bros. Pictures(NEW YORK) -- The final trailer for Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald is out, and the biggest surprise is that one of the Harry Potter series' most venomous villains is, in fact, a woman.

And we mean venomous literally.  Nagini, the giant deadly serpent that the evil Lord Voldemort kept as a pet in the Harry Potter movies, is revealed to be Nagini the circus performer, whom we see in the trailer transform into Nagini the snake. 

Actress Claudia Kim, who plays Nagini, tells Entertainment Weekly her Crimes of Grindlewald character isn't all evil -- at least, not yet.  "In this, she’s a wonderful and vulnerable woman who wants to live. She wants to stay a human being," Kim says. 

Of course, Harry Potter fans know Nagini will ultimately not only remain a serpent, but will serve as one of the Horcruxes that hold pieces of Voldemort's soul, and ultimately lead to his demise.

Otherwise, the Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald features more tantalizing glimpses of the forthcoming film, including new footage of Jude Law as a young Professor Dumbledore and Johnny Depp as the nasty wizard Gellert Grindelwald himself.

Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald -- starring Eddie Redmayne, Katherine Waterston, Alison Sudol, Jacob Fowler, Ezra Miller and Zoe Kravitz -- opens nationally November 16.

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Kennedy Holmes auditions; Tyler Golden/NBC(LOS ANGELES) -- The Voice kicked off its 15th season Monday night with two hours of blind auditions.

Returning coach Jennifer Hudson nabbed three artists, while her fellow American Idol alum Kelly Clarkson tied with veteran coaches Adam Levine and Blake Shelton with two artists each. 

The absolute stand out of the night was 13-year-old Kennedy Holmes who had all four coaches turn their chairs after performing Adele's "Turning Tables." Adam said Kennedy "can become the biggest thing to ever come from this show," and Blake said she is the best vocalist to audition this year.

But after an impromptu duet with Jennifer, Kennedy finally chose the "I Am Changing" singer as her coach. 

Iraq War veteran Mikele Buck also moved the judges with his country performance of Brooks & Dunn's "She Used to Be Mine." He performed the song in honor of his friend who took his life after returning from war. After a heated battle between Kelly and Blake for him, Mikele ultimately chose Kelly as his coach. 

A 19-year-old Fililpino American from New Jersey named Radha also had the coaches in a heated battle. After performing "Mama Knows Best," Adam used his one block of the season to prevent Radha from choosing Jennifer as her coach. Ultimately, Radha chose Adam after he said "it's the era of the female."

Ayanna Joni, a 29-year-old mother and former child actor, became the first contestant in the series' history to come back after getting no coaches to turn their big red chairs. She will take part in this season's new segment: Comeback Stage where she will get a second chance to perform in the live shows after being coached by country artist Kelsea Ballerini.

Other contestants that took a stab at the blind auditions include:

Sarah Grace, 15 years old, has synesthesia
Sang: “Ball and Chain”
Judges: Kelly, Blake, Jennifer turned; Sarah chose Kelly

Tyshawn Colquitt, 23 years old, singing cake delivery boy from the projects
Sang: “Like I can”
Judges: Jennifer, Blake turned; Tyshawn chose Jennifer

Tyke James, 17 years old, surfer in Hawaii
Sang: "Perfect"
Judges: Adam turned; Tyke chose Adam

Mercedes Ferreria-Dias, 17 years old, auditioned last season but no one turned around
Sang: "She Used to Be Mine"
Judges: Blake and Kelly turned; Mercedes chose Blake

Kameron Marlowe, 21 years old, works on cars
Sang: "One Number Away"
Judges: Kelly and Blake turned; Kameron chose Blake

Sam Hastings, 22 years old
Sang: "Angela"
Judges: No one turned

Patrique Fortson, had a record deal as a child
Sang: "Get Here"
Judges: Jennifer and Adam turned; Patrique chose Jennifer

The blind auditions continue with a one-hour episode airing Tuesday night at 8 p.m. ET on NBC.

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DeMarcus Ware and LindsayArnold; ABC/Eric McCandless(LOS ANGELES) -- On the kickoff of the 27th season of Dancing with the Stars, an athlete and a singer tied for first place, while a Bachelor in Paradise contestant didn't get any roses from the judges.

The best dances of the night came from R&B star Tinashe, whose jive with new pro Brandon Armstrong scored a 23/30, and NFL star DeMarcus Ware, whose cha cha with Lindsay Arnold also earned a 23/30.

The worst dance came from "Grocery Store Joe" Amabile, an alumni of both The Bachelorette and Bachelor in Paradise. His quickstep with Bachelor super fan and pro Jenna Johnson was so pathetic that judge Len Goodman gave him a four, while Carrie Ann Inaba and Bruno Tonioli each gave him five, for a dismal score of 14/30. 

Paralympic Alpine skier Danelle Umstead, the show's first blind contestant, wowed the judges by pulling off a foxtrot with partner Artem Chigvintsev and scored an 18/30.

The sexiest dance of the night came from Fuller House star Juan Pablo Di Pace who, along with partner Cheryl Burke, nearly set the dance floor on fire with a smokin' salsa.

The strangest dance of the night came from American Idol mentor, radio host, author and comedian Bobby Bones. After his jive with Sharna Burgess, he was so excited that he started yelling, fist-pumping and jumping up and down, until he fell on his butt on the ballroom floor. Bruno called their dance "exquisitely demented;" Tom Bergeron suggested that Bobby try decaf.

The DWTS two-night season premiere continues at 8 p.m. ET on ABC Tuesday, as the contestants dance again, and one couple goes home.

Here are the current standings:

Tied for first:
Tinashe, R&B singer, with Brandon Armstrong  23/30
DeMarcus Ware, former NFL star, with Lindsay Arnold  23/30

Juan Pablo Di Pace, Argentinian actor and director, with Cheryl Burke 22/30
Alexis Ren, Sports Illustrated swimsuit model, with Alan Bersten 21/30
Milo Manheim, Disney channel star, with Witney Carson  20/30
Bobby Bones, country radio personality, with Sharna Burgess  20/18
Mary Lou Retton, former Olympic gymnast, with Sasha Farber 19/30
John Schneider, former The Dukes of Hazzard star, with Emma Slater 18/30
Nancy McKeon, former The Facts of Life star, with Val Chmerkovskiy 18/30
Danelle Umstead, visually-impaired Paralympic skiier, with Artem Chigvintsev  18/30
Evanna Lynch, Harry Potter films star, with Keo Motsepe  18/30
Nikki Glaser, comic, with Gleb Savchenko  17/30

Lowest score:
Joe Amabile, The Bachelorette contestant, with Jenna Johnson  14/30

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ABC/Eike Schroter(NEW YORK) -- When The Good Doctor returns to ABC tonight, British actor Freddie Highmore will be pulling double duty. He not only stars as Dr. Shaun Murphy, but he wrote the season two premiere episode as well.

“Hopefully, people won't be able to tell,” Highmore tells ABC Radio. “I guess that's the thing that you hope for as a television writer is that it still feels like the show and that Shaun doesn't suddenly become someone else or start speaking in British-isms," he jokes. "But no, it was a wonderful opportunity and a huge honor to be asked to write the first one.”

The first episode picks up with Shaun, who's autistic, dealing with the aftermath of his near-fatal mistake in the OR last season, as well as the news that his mentor, Dr. Glassman -- played by The West Wing veteran Richard Schiff -- has a brain tumor. The episode also includes a farewell to one character and the surprise return of another.

Highmore says writing the script helped him tap into the other characters’ perspectives, not just Shaun's. Not to mention it made it much easier to memorize his lines.

“Or if the lines aren't good you have no one to complain to but yourself,” he jokes. “So yes, in that way I guess it curtails a little bit of the acting process of learning the lines and figuring what the scene is about.” 

Highmore, who previously wrote and directed some episodes of Bates Motel, in which he also starred, plans to direct an episode of The Good Doctor later this season.

Season two of The Good Doctor premieres tonight at 10 p.m. ET on ABC.

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Mark Makela/Getty Images(NORRISTOWN, PA) -- A sentencing hearing for Bill Cosby will continue for a second day Tuesday at the Montgomery County Court in Norristown, PA.

The hearing began Monday with the defense and prosecution presenting their arguments for sentencing, following Cosby's April conviction on three counts of aggravated indecent assault for drugging and sexually assaulting Andrea Constand in 2004.

The prosecution is asking for five-10 years of state incarceration, while the defense argued that Cosby is too old and feeble to serve prison time.

Cosby's lawyer, Joseph P. Green, argued, “Mr. Cosby is not dangerous. 81-year-old blind men who are not self-sufficient are not dangerous.”

But the Montgomery County District Attorney Kevin Steele said Cosby shouldn’t get a "get out jail free" card because he's old.

“The bottom line is nobody is above the law,” Steele argued. He added, “Committing a drugging and sexual assault comes with a hefty price. That price is your liberty.”

Constand took the stand very briefly Monday only to say that the judge had her victim impact statement and added, “All I am asking for is justice as the court sees fit.” Her mother, father and sister also read victim impact statements.

Tuesday morning there will be testimony about whether Cosby should be designated a sexually violent predator. The judge will rule on that, and announce Cosby’s sentence.

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ABC Radio(NEW YORK) -- Ahead of the premiere of his upcoming comedy Night School, starring Tiffany Haddish, Girls Trip producer Will Packer is updating fans on the status of Girls Trip 2, the highly anticipated sequel to last year's summer blockbuster.

Packer tells ABC Radio that the film is indeed in the works, but there's a really good reason for the hold up with its production.

"Listen, these are four of [the] busiest women in Hollywood right now," he says referring to the cast of Girls Trip. "I mean, seriously. "Queen [Latifah] is never not working. Regina Hall -- she just had a movie that came out, and then she's got The Hate You Give. Jada Pinkett Smith is -- first of all she's Jada Pinkett Smith, so let's just start there. That's before we even get to Miss Haddish. Miss everybody wants a piece Tiffany Haddish -- and she's willing to give it."

According to Packer, the cast schedules first need to be figured out. After that, it's making sure his entire Girls Trip team is ready to go.

"Malcolm [Lee] and I talked about it and I think if we do it we've got to do it right," Packer says, referencing the film's director. "We bring him back, Kenya Barris and Tracy Oliver -- who... was the main writer on Girls Trip."

While Packer confirms there will definitely be a sequel, he admits he wasn't initially sold on doing the project.

"The worst thing I could do is to make the sequel fall short," Packer adds. "Because then everybody goes, 'Why in the hell would you make a sequel? When the first one was so good?"

Fortunately, Packer isn't willing to let his fear hold him back.

"I think we'll do it and I think we'll do it right," he smiles. "I think it will be great."

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ABC/Eric Liebowitz(NEW YORK) -- Ricky Gervais stopped by Good Morning America Monday to chat about his game show Child Support, his Netflix stand-up special and whether or not he’d ever host the Golden Globes again.

In Child Support, which kicks off its second season on ABC October 5, Gervais wrangles a group of kids to see if they can match the answers of adult contestants. The comedian says he loves working with children, particularly because they can be brutally honest.

“One little girl just went to me, ‘I can see your bald spot,’ and I went, ‘Cheers,’” he says. “And another one said, ‘Are you married?’ and I said, ‘No, but I’ve been with the same girl for 30 years.’ She went, ‘Why don’t you propose to her, then?’”

But he says if he had to choose between kids, animals or celebrities at the Golden Globes, the celebrities are probably the toughest to work with. He's hosted the awards show four times and says he “might” be back to host again someday.

Gervais also has a stand-up special on Netflix, called Ricky Gervais: Humanity – his first stand-up special in seven years.

“I always thought stand-up was the second thing I did. You know, I write and direct TV or films or whatever,” he says. “But now after doing this tour – I did a world tour and it went on Netflix – I think stand-up’s my main thing now, because it’s such a privilege to go out there and say what you want.”

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ABC(LOS ANGELES) -- A whole new set of celebrities will hit the ballroom tonight as the 27th season of Dancing with the Stars premieres on ABC. The cast -- which includes actors, singers, athletes and an Instagram star -- are all hoping to overcome their own personal challenges to snag the Mirrorball trophy.

Gymnast Mary Lou Retton, who’s partnered with Sasha Farber, says the prize is “maybe even more appreciated” than an Olympic gold medal because she’s “starting from zero.”

And even though some of the contestants may have dance experience, they’re still new to the world of ballroom dancing. Dukes of Hazzard actor John Schneider says he’s eager to show a different side to himself.

“[I] was never really the dancer guy, I was the singer guy,” he says. “So I’m finally going to find out whether or not I can do this.”

For comedian Nikki Glaser, it’s all about learning how to transition from her solo stand-up work to working with her partner, Gleb Savchenko.

“It’s really hard for me to give over and be led because I want everything my way,” she says. “…It’s just difficult to let go of jokes, to not make funny faces with him and to take it seriously.”

Nancy McKeon, who’s partnered with Val Chmerkovskiy, says she sought advice from her Facts of Life co-star Kim Fields, who danced on season 22 of the series.

“[Kim] said to enjoy and have fun, and she’s so right,” says the actress, who played tomboy Jo on the classic sitcom. “[You] could always see the joy and the happiness on her face when she was dancing and so that’s what she said to do, just enjoy the dance.”  (AUDIO IS ABC 1-ON-1)

The two-night season premiere kicks off tonight at 8 p.m. ET on ABC.

Here's the full list of the stars and their pro dance partners:

Bobby Bones, syndicated country radio personality, with Sharna Burgess
John Schneider, former The Dukes of Hazzard star, with Emma Slater
Juan Pablo Di Pace, Argentinian actor and director, with Cheryl Burke
Milo Manheim, Disney channel star, with Witney Carson
Alexis Ren, Sports Illustrated swimsuit model, with Alan Bersten
Danelle Umstead, visually-impaired Paralympic skiier, with Artem Chigvintsev
Joe Amabile, The Bachelorette contestant, with Adam Rippon
Evanna Lynch, Harry Potter films star, with Keo Motsepe
Mary Lou Retton, former Olympic gymnast, with Sasha Farber
Nancy McKeon, former The Facts of Life star, with Val Chmerkovskiy
Nikki Glaser, comic, with Gleb Savchenko
Tinashe, R&B singer, with Brandon Armstrong
DeMarcus Ware, former NFL star, with Lindsay Arnold

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HBO(LOS ANGELES) -- Jane Fonda is the subject of a new documentary premiering Monday night on HBO called Jane Fonda in Five Acts. It's everything you ever wanted to know about the actress and activist, and she tells ABC Radio it was "a hard watch."

"You know it would be nice for me if it was a portrait of me that everything is flattering and makes me look great," says the 80-year-old Grace and Frankie star, "but some of it doesn't, and I'm not always proud of what I did or say."

One of Fonda's biggest regrets: "I wasn't a good enough mother to my daughter."

People may also be shocked to learn that the outspoken actress is not as strong and confident as she appears.

"I've gotten feedback...from guys especially [who say] 'I've always seen you as this really strong woman, and I didn't realize how lacking in confidence you were,' and that kind of thing," notes Fonda. "And I think that's important for people to see -- that we're never just one thing."

A few takeaways Fonda hopes people get from watching the doc? "I hope they learn that it's never too late, that forgiveness is important, and that striving to have a life that has meaning is a worthwhile endeavor," she says.  

Grace and Frankie, which also stars Lily Tomlin and Martin Sheen, returns for its fifth season in 2019 on Netflix.

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© 2018 Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc. All Rights Reserved/Nikos Tavernise (NEW YORK) -- Days after director Todd Phillips posted some very creepy test footage of Joaquin Phoenix as The Joker, comes leaked footage of the actor at work as the Clown Prince of Crime.

The footage, posted by TMZ, shows Joker striding off of a New York -- or Gotham City -- subway car, peeling off a plastic mask to reveal a painted face beneath. In his wake is pandemonium: A businessman is pulled from the car and beaten by folks in street clothes and Joker acolytes in masks hold any good Samaritans at bay. One goon holds an "Eat the Rich" poster, possibly betraying what makes this version of the villain tick.

Like the test footage, Phillips seems to be giving a nod to Caesar Romero's original Joker get-up, with Phoenix dressed in a green shirt under an orange vest and a maroon suit, but also to the general creepiness of clowns. Whether it's the John Wayne Gacy effect or that of Pennywise from It, Phoenix's Joker looks scary enough just wearing traditional clown face paint to give him his murderous grin. Both Jack Nicholson and Heath Ledger also used facial make-up to compliment their look.

And while Phoenix recently claimed to IndieWire that he didn't care what people thought of him playing the Batman villain, fan reaction online seems to tilt in his favor -- certainly better than that of Jared Leto's tattooed, grill-sporting Joker from Suicide Squad. Even director David Ayer now admits he might have gone too far with Leto's look.

We'll see if Phoenix's approach pays off when Joker, which might also star Robert De Niro, hits theaters October 4, 2019.

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ABC/Randy Holmes(LOS ANGELES) -- Justin Theroux is finally speaking out about his divorce from Jennifer Aniston in a revealing interview in this weekend's The New York Times. 

After two years of marriage and seven years together, the two actors called it quits in February, igniting a flame of wild rumors. 

"How do you combat gossip and rumor?" he said. “And it’s just on crack and steroids now.”

The truth is the two split amicably without any drama like the tabloids said. 

"It was kind of the most gentle separation, in that there was no animosity,” the Maniac actor said in the interview. “In a weird way, just sort of navigating the inevitable perception of it is the exhausting part.”

He added, “Again, neither one of us is dead, neither one of us is looking to throw hatchets at each other. It’s more like, it’s amicable. It’s boring, but, you know, we respected each other enough that it was as painless as it could be.”

But, Theroux does admit the divorce was "heartbreaking," especially since it tainted their friendship.

“The friendship would not be the same, as far as just the day to day," he said. "But the friendship is shifting and changing, you know, so that part is something that we’re both very proud of.”

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